Archive for August, 2009

Stolen Property !!!

Thursday, August 27th, 2009

A CRA member came to the helpdesk yesterday requesting a replacement CRA membership card because the original had been stolen along with his wallet. The member told us that on reporting this incident at the Mazarron Police Station the officer their opened a draw which held a large number of stolen wallets which had been handed in.

The officer stated that most of the wallets still had most of the credit cards, driving licences, etc… in  them as most of the thieves were only intersted in ready cash.

The system in Spain is not the same as in the UK. The police will not contact you about any stolen items they have recovered, even if the details are available.

If you have had property stolen, don’t give up, visit the police station for a couple of months after.

You may be lucky.

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CRA Committee Meeting 53 – 19th August 2009

Friday, August 21st, 2009

Camposol Residents Association
Central Liaison Committee
Minutes of the 53rd meeting 19th August 2009

Those Present :
Greg Green Chairman
Joyce Stewart Treasurer
Geoff Nastri
John Daws

Les Crook

Apologies :
Mary Cooper Secretary
Mick Drummond

Absent:
Jane Walters Vice Chair

The meeting opened at 11.30am.

1. The minutes of the previous meeting (52) having been reviewed and accepted as a true record.
Proposed John Daw, seconded Joyce Stewart passed unanimously.

2. The Chairman briefed those present on the current position re committee members. Unfortunately Tom Carpenter had resigned due to personality clashes on the committee.

Replacements had been approached from those not included from the recent elections.

Derek Smith had declined the offer on the grounds of differences with the current Chairman.

Steve Newman had declined on the grounds that he was currently fully involved in an ongoing action being taken by a group on his polygono against Masa.

Linda Crook had declined on the grounds that her husband Les was already a committee member and she thought that it could cause problems if they were both on the same committee.

Ken Richardson declined on the grounds of ill health.

Barrie Eveleigh has been contacted and will meet with the Chairman to discuss the opportunity on his return from the UK.

The Chairman stated that it was important that a new batch of people come forward and make themselves available for the committee.

3. A short discussion was held on the membership qualifications. It was agreed, due to concerns raised on other websites, that this subject needed to be debated openly at the next AGM/EGM and if agreed by the membership the rules changed. 

4. As part of the discount scheme with the ICA it had been agreed that their underbuild could be used by groups such as the scouts & guides at peppercorn rents. The underbuild does need its toilet completing and it has been agreed that the CRA provide the funds to a maximum amount of 600 Euros to do this. The money will be recouped from rental charges for the room.

5. Greg Green produced a document that will form the major part of a newsletter to be released. It was agreed this would be finalized and then published.

6. Joyce Stewart produced a slightly amended registration form which was authorized for use.

7. Greg Green reported that because of the lack of progress with the bus service for Camposol he had recently had a meeting with the owner of the tourist train as seen in the port. The owner was very keen to bring his train to Camposol and provide a continuous service to all parts of Camposol. The details have yet to be finalized but will be concluded by the middle of September. The next step is planned for the meeting with Jackie Galvez in early September.

8. A proposal to spend 150 Euros on advertising in the Costa Calida Chronicle and the Camposol District Journal over the next 3 months was proposed by Les Crook and seconded by Geoff Nastri. It was passed unanimously. The advert will be aimed at recruiting more members and giving more exposure to the website.

9. Greg Green reported that the website www.cracamposol.com had been successfully launched and was having regular high daily hits.  The forum membership now stood at 65 and was increasing daily.

10. John Daws reported that tickets were now available for the CRA Country & Western Night to be held at Marianos on the 3rd October. Tickets were 9 Euros and this included chicken & chips and free entry to the draw.

Helpdesk Summer Opening Hours : Mon, Wed & Fri, 4pm to 5pm.

11. Next meeting Monday 7th September 2009 at 12.30pm.

With no further business to discuss the meeting closed at 2pm.

Camposol Residents Association
Registration Number: 7943/1 – CIF G73369167
Apartado de Correos 61.
30870 Mazarron
Murcia

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Interesting Websites Camposol

Tuesday, August 18th, 2009

The following two websites are Spanish and give interesting information about the geography of Camposol over the years.

The first is :

 www.cartomur.com.

The best way to enter is by entering “cartomur” in google and when the options appear press the top left option called cartoteca.

This will get you into a map of Murcia and if you select the tool indicated by a plus and square box you can select an area to be highlighted. Satellite maps are available from 1956 onwards. You can even overlay maps to compare development over the years.

The second website is : 

www.catastro.meh.es

Again the best way to enter is by searching “catastro” in Google and when the options appear select the top left option “Bienvenido a la Oficina Virtual”

If you enter Mazarron in the correct box this again allows you to access the area through satellite pictures through the years and local authority boundaries. If you play with the various tools it will even allow you to go down to your individual plot and if details have been entered by the planning office you can see your villa, pool layouts etc. You can also go into the information area at this stage and it will give details of any licences granted etc…

Both sites are available in Spanish only but don’t be frightened of doing any damage you can always go out and start again.

Have fun.

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A Sector Homeowners Committee (Entidad)

Tuesday, August 4th, 2009

Below is an extract from the recently held CRA AGM. We know that the A Sector Homeowners Committee (Entidad) have access to this website and that they are aware of the requests that were made within the AGM of them. It would seem once again that their arrogance has got the better of them and they have not seen fit to even reply to the points let alone call an AGM. Even on their own site, to which A Sector homeowners have no access of reply, nothing has been done to address these important questions.

We once again demand that the A Sector Homeowners Committee (Entidad) call an AGM with immediate notice to answer the questions below to not only CRA members living on Sector A but also for all homeowners of Sector A. 

“I will now move on to the situation regarding the Sector A Homeowners Committee. Over the last 3 months myself and Mary have attended a meeting with Chairman of the A Sect Homeowners Committee and one of its members. We requested that, as we have a common purpose, their committee have regular meetings with the CRA and agree to the CRA playing a full part in the negotiations with the Council in the takeover of Sector A and subsequently the rest of Camposol.

The ASHC wrote back to us some weeks later saying that they were willing to have regular informal meetings with the CRA to exchange views but fell short of allowing the CRA to be part of the takeover process.

The fact that they have agreed to regular meetings is a step forward but we know many of our members, some of those living on Sector A, are not happy with allowing the ASHC  negotiate a takeover with the Council which will directly impact on the whole of Camposol when the remaining sectors are taken over.

Without doubt in their own opinion and in the eyes of the council ASHC are the only party able to represent A Sector in the negotiations. Although they try to distance themselves from the word Entity they have evolved from the original Entity Committee which is still legally in place. That said over the last few months I have been passed many concerns about the ASHC. Some of these are :

  1. The ASHC only have one person voted in by the homeowners on sector A. The rest have been handpicked and given places on the committee. This is not democratic.
  2. The statute of the Entity demands an AGM be held every 12 months. Not one in the last 3 years has been called. This is not only against their own rules but also not democratic. The committee apparently use the excuse that a referendum was held to keep what was the original committee in place until the immanent takeover of the council. That was nearly two years ago and still no sign of any takeover by the council.
  3.  The ASHC have talked of a watered down entity. What does that mean? What exactly will the homeowners be expected to pay for. Who will administer this system and who will be accountable to the homeowners.
  4. It is known that the Entity are already in debt. Money is owed to the original administrator and lawyer. How much is owed? Who is going to pay it? Are the original administrator and lawyer still under contract to the Entity. If not who dismissed them. The rules of the entity say that this can only be done by the members vote in an AGM or EGM!!!

We on the CRA committee are happy to meet with the ASHC but if they remain unelected, undemocratic and questionably illegal then, on behalf of our members living on A Sector, we demand that they call an immediate AGM to answer all of the points above to all of the homeowners of A sector. We also request they reconsider their position of excluding the remainder of Camposol from their negotiations with the council about the takeover.”

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